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A special Mobile County grand jury today returned indictments on 57 felony counts against ex-circuit court judge Herman Thomas, including ethics violations, first-degree kidnapping, first-degree sex abuse, first-and-second-degree extortion and first-degree sodomy.
The indictments involve nine alleged victims Thomas supposedly extorted for sexual favors during his time as a judge. Thomas resigned from the circuit court just over two years ago amid an Alabama Judicial Inquiries Commission investigation into allegations he spanked inmates in a secret room in the courthouse and also surreptitiously removed cases from other judges’ dockets and had them placed on his own. Mobile County District Attorney John Tyson, Jr. delivered the indictments during a 2:30 press conference at the Mobile County Courthouse.
Named as victims in the indictments were Jhordis Woods, Necester Warmack, Douglas Hill, Akil Figures, Mitee Meardry, Thaddeus Hale, Deangelo Daughtry, Marcus Vaughn and Darrius Lane. Figures is the son of State Sen. Vivian Davis Figures. All men are either currently housed in the Mobile Metro Jail, or have spent time there. Normally Lagniappe would not name victims of alleged sexual abuse, but given the highly charged political nature of this case we believe it is unrealistic to expect they will stay secret and even unfair to Thomas.
The grand jury charged Thomas with sexually violating all of the men and with using his position to solicit sexual favors from them. In the case of some alleged victims like Woods, the grand jury also found that Thomas used Woods’ labor for his private benefit to materially affect his financial interest. Tyson would not elaborate on the specifics of what the charges meant, saying he was going to be extremely careful with information surrounding the case, and that he was unhappy with what he considered to be the dissemination of sensitive information. “I’m really disturbed about some of the leaks that I have been reading about in that regard. We’re going to find out as best we can from where all that came,” Tyson said.
Thomas was arrested outside of Mobile County Metro Jail just minutes before Tyson’s press conference. His attorney “Cowboy” Bob Clark was holding his own press conference when D.A.’s investigators walked up and arrested Thomas and took him into the jail to be booked. Prior to the arrest, Clark categorized the indictments as a, “high-tech lynching. It’s racism at its finest by the white folks at the courthouse.”
Tyson dismissed the charges of racism out of hand. All of Thomas’ alleged victims are black.
Prior to Tyson’s press conference, there was a brief moment of drama when Clark showed up and was told by one of Tyson’s investigators, Tony Goubil, that he couldn’t stay. Clark said Goubilwould have to arrest him if he wanted him to leave. Finally the Goubil told Clark he was under arrest. “One of your goons is going to arrest me,” Clark hollered as he was lead down the hallway to an awaiting Tyson. After a short meeting, Clark was allowed to return, although he sat quietly. Tyson later made certain to point out that Clark was not under arrest.
Thomas faced a bond of $287,500. He was bonded out of jail Friday afternoon.
If convicted, the former judge could face an extremely long stretch in jail, as the charges against him carry some pretty severe penalties.
“The grand jury leveled what I consider to be very serious charges. The most serious is a Class A felony. There are a number of Class Bs here and Class C felonies. The Class A is punishable by a range of 10 to 99 Bs 2 to 20, Cs 1 to 10. I would say anytime you return a felony indictment in the judicial profession you have a very serious set of circumstances,” Tyson said.
Tyson also said he does not think Thomas poses a flight risk, but his office did set three conditions upon his release. He is to have no contact with any males under the age of 21, he is to have no contact with any of the complaining victims or family members of the complaining witness and he must surrender his passport. When asked whether Thomas’ work with the Mobile County School System, specifically the Phoenix Program which deals with at-risk youth, is something that concerns his office as the investigation moves forward, Tyson pointed out the stipulation that Thomas not have contact with young men under 21. Most of his alleged victims were young inmates in their late teens or early 20s at the time they claim Thomas abused them.
Tyson said his office has been in contact with the Alabama State Bar and gave them a copy of the indictments. The bar has been in contact with Thomas in the past month. Thomas is still practicing as an attorney with the Brandyburg firm.
If Thomas is eventually convicted, Tyson said it will create a situation in which the cases he presided over will have to be examined to determine what, if any, problems there may have been related to his behavior.
“We’re going to have to take that on a case-by-case basis. I suspect we’ll get what we have been getting in that regard. I think there have been a number of inquiries, but we’ll have to do it on a case-by-case basis,” Tyson said.
Tyson also said he has been in touch with the state Supreme Court in order to begin the process of getting a judge to hear Thomas’ trial, as he expects all of the Mobile County Circuit Court judges to recuse themselves from the case.
“I don’t know if that has formally happened, but I expect it to,” he said.
He said he asked Chief Justice Sue Bell Cobb to appoint a judge for the case.
“Once we’ve done that I suspect we’ll have an arraignment and set a calendar,” Tyson said.
He does expect the trial to take place in Mobile County.
Tyson has faced some criticism in recent months for the length of time Thomas has gone without being indicted. The first allegations of his paddling of prisoners and changing of court dockets started coming to light almost three years ago and he resigned from the bench just over two years ago. A series of articles in this publication brought to light complaints that Tyson’s office had stopped investigating Thomas, and also highlighted the efforts of attorney Joe Kulakowski who has independently investigated Thomas over the past two years.
Tyson said this investigation has been going on for a long time, but did say the special grand jury was empanelled just a few weeks ago during the trial of Lam Luong, the man who was recently convicted of throwing his four children off the Dauphin Island Bridge.
“We used the cover of the Lam Luong trial to ask for the jurors for this special grand jury,” Tyson said. He added that they have not released the grand jury and that it will continue to investigate the case.
Clark summarized the entire list of indictments with one word – “bullshit.”
“This ain’t even close enough for government work. It ain’t close enough for hand grenades,” he said.
He went on to say the indictments came strictly from racism from other judges and members of the local legal community. He specifically named Circuit Judge Rusty Johnston and Kulakowski.
“I would start with the sixth floor then wander up to the seventh floor in this building, that’s where it’s coming from,” Clark said from the atrium of Government Plaza after Tyson’s press conference. “You don’t read the newspaper? They talked about Herman being suspended from Judge Johnston’s courtroom, Joe Koolaid hanging out in Judge Johnston’s courtroom all the time. That’s where it’s coming from, people who’ve got 20 and 30 years for Herman. If you went over to that jail and said say something bad about that judge that sentenced you we’ll let you go, they’d talk.”
Clark also disparaged the fact that the alleged victims are all people who have criminal histories.
“What’s unusual is to take the word of convicted felons and mash it into a 58-count (the grand jury handed out a 57- count indictment) indictment,” Clark said.
Asked why Thomas resigned his position on the bench if all the charges against him were false, Clark said he would have had different advice for the ex-judge.
“I didn’t represent the judge. It’s all made up. I didn’t represent the judge back then. I would not have handled it the way it was handled,” Clark said.
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jm says:
April 11, 2009
04:40 PM
Well, if his star hasn't completely fallen, it's in the white dwarf stage and heading quickly towards the empty black hole. That's rocket scientist talk for "he's imploding" (I think).
It’s weird how fiercely some people are still defending him. A friend of mine told me that in her office, there is so much racial tension surrounding the story that they can’t even talk about it at work. Amongst these particular (intelligent) individuals, there is a sharp racial divide about how things went down. None of these individuals attended the rally, but that does tell me that Herman must still have quite a bit more supporters out there than we realize.
I know he touched a lot of people personally (haha), and they don’t want to believe that he’s a bad guy. And I guess the rest must have something to do with some sort of racial loyalty which, ironically, is really the only evidence of racism I see in the whole story. I don’t think people are really “getting it” about how much damage he caused. They need to hear about the kid-on-the-verge. I could probably think of quite a few more sad perspectives hidden under all the messy politics. Confucius say Herman hurt us all.
Thanks for making me listen to DM. That was a treat as it’s been a while. “I Feel You” was one of my favorites and I got to see them play sometime shortly after that one came out. Not the best live show, but hey, blame the heroin, not the New Wave band. I didn’t really know “Dangerous,” but that’s a good one. It sounds…dangerous.
Unfortunately, all the sad new twists have pushed me to “The World I Know” (Collective Soul). I can’t jump though. I’d miss the happy ending.
bluedotbama says:
April 09, 2009
09:16 PM
I agree with you totally here. But he has crossed the line in the public eye already and his star has fallen. And if we are gonna include Depeche Mode in the song list you can't leave out "Dangerous".
jm says:
April 09, 2009
07:25 PM
Some of your thoughts on this case need some serious provoking.
Ahh… Depeche Mode... everybody with ears should love Enjoy the Silence and Personal Jesus. They have a really cool sound and Walking in My Shoes is a great song. Good choice. I hereby acknowledge it for inclusion into Signor Spankeroni.
You are exactly right about the priest thing. Some are successfully repressed homosexuals. Some are secretly practicing gays (and do not abuse children). But a few try to be repressed gays, but end up losing the battle and acting out at some point with someone who feels safe. And I’m sure there are plenty of priests who are somehow asexual or pure or whatever.
From what I understand, a lot of times the priest actually feels like he loves the kid and doesn’t believe he is hurting him. I hate their behavior towards children, but I think that’s a sad story too. Some of them were born gay but grew up being told that god hates gay people. He basically becomes a deviant at least partly because people inadvertently always told him he was.
Then there are plenty of great priests. I once loved one who was a pure and chaste saint and clearly joined the priesthood for only the most idealistic reasons. If that’s not the truth, I surely don’t ever want to know. I’d close my eyes, cover my ears, and shake my head.
I guess that’s how some of those folks feel about Herman. Nobody likes to lose a hero. Sometimes you’d just rather not see the truth. Unfortunately, there probably should be a point when you have to cut the chord. I suspect Herman's case will eventually cross that line in the public eye, if it hasn't already.
bluedotbama says:
April 09, 2009
04:08 PM
I read you comments again JM as they are thought provoking for me. And back on the rock and roll themes we discussed before you first paragraph reminds me of the Depeche Mode song......"Try Walking in My Shoes."
bluedotbama says:
April 09, 2009
03:00 PM
Hah! Great analogy. You are right about the church as well. Repression creates more problems than it solves for sure. To some extent I always felt the church with its celibacy was somewhat of a magnet for homosexual men. Where else can a man go to work, never be married and never have to explain that and nobody questions his sexual orientation. If he were 50, never married, never dated, never had sex and worked in my office everyone would just assume he was probably gay but not if he is a priest.
jm says:
April 09, 2009
01:21 PM
Thank you for considering that viewpoint, Blue. I told you, it’s a very sad story. I hope the jury gets to hear that angle one day if it is applicable. You just never know what other peoples' lives are like without living them.
You’ve mentioned the priest scandal several times. That’s a sad story too. I don’t think it will completely stop until the Church loosens its views on celibacy and homosexuality. People were not meant to suppress or be shamed for their sexual natures. It’s counterproductive and usually backfires. It sometimes even causes otherwise normal people to act out with children, who they see as non-threatening, non-judgmental, and good at keeping secrets.
All this shame is causing people to go insane. It's unhealthy to make people suppress their sexuality too much or to take away their deviant sex toys. Thusly, this entire thing is Troy King’s fault after all.
bluedotbama says:
April 08, 2009
06:27 PM
Very insightful JM. I think you make excellent points concerning the paths these young men traveled. I did not think of that angle and think that may have been the case more than I thought. Thanks for that insight.
Proud, you did not read what I said or the concern or issue I was addressing. Read it again! Never did I suggest they don't have rights or should not have their violations addressed like any other citizen. Read it again! I was concerned that because of their status in life that they will not be given the fair consideration they deserve because its human nature. For example do you think a known prostitute that is raped will be treated with equal courtesy as some upscale socialite from springhill? Of course not......and I was pointing out that was wrong. Read it again! My words were that I "detest" what happened to those men. How could you possibly conclude that I thought it was ok??
jm says:
April 08, 2009
04:45 PM
For purposes of this discussion, I’m only talking about the potential for additional victims, which I fear could very well be minors. As I've said before, if you understand sex crimes, you understand that they often go far beyond sex. Many times, it is more about a need to control another to make oneself feel more powerful. Any man can find someone to have sex with (or spank), male or female, if that’s what they want. Particularly in the age of the internet, no matter how freaky you want to get, you can probably find somebody who’s interested in a consensual secret arrangement. Based only on what I’ve heard, it doesn’t sound like Thomas wanted consensual sex. He liked the added element of being in charge and causing humiliation.
If this is the case, Thomas had a perfect set-up for fulfilling his desires. He had a whole mess of young men that he was in charge of, right at his disposal. It was easy to get away with, partly because his chosen victims were the throwaways of society. As you pointed out, no one really seems to care about “thugs” in jail, so he felt like he could have his way with them without fear.
As I’ve said, my hunch is that his desire to control young men didn’t stop when he stepped down from his position. The only thing that changed was that it got a little more difficult to push around grown men. At that point, he either had to abruptly stop indulging his desires, resort to some other means of control, or find victims that were easier to push around. My mind went instantly to minors, who are very easily controlled by sophisticated and well-respected adult authority figures.
Obviously I have no direct knowledge that any specific minors were in danger, but it seems like common sense to think that there might be a risk. I wasn’t personally aware that he was exposed to minors, but just days after I made the comment, the story came out that he increased his time with at-risk youth as soon as he left the bench. That was not comforting, to say the least. If you’ve ever worked with children, you’d know that at-risk youth are often the most vulnerable to sex offenders. Most of the time, they’re in trouble in the first place because they lack strong parental support and involvement, and they are generally thought to be a pain-in-the-ass to the school system. In other words, there’s a good chance no one is looking out for them as much as little Tyler from the Honor’s Class.
If I were a sex crimes prosecutor diligently working this case for the past two years, I’d know all of this stuff like the back of my hand. I'd also be well aware that he was spending a lot of time with these teenagers. My head would go “click, click, boom,” and then I’d be raising hell trying to get him indicted or at least keep him far away from vulnerable youngsters.
I’m well aware of how the public feels about the victims that we already know about. I’ve heard comments that range from insensitive to downright disturbing, and I would agree that there’s a good chance I wouldn’t be inviting most of them to Thanksgiving dinner myself. But that’s not the point. Not at all.
If I were writing the John Grisham book, there’d be at least a few who were far more sympathetic than anyone realizes. I can’t help but imagine a kid from a bad home, perhaps even 18, who was right on the verge of going either direction with his life. He made some bad decisions and ended up finding himself in serious trouble for the first time. Some kids will accept their punishment and go on to turn their lives around, and others will spiral downhill and basically waste what’s left of their lives. This kid could go either way at this point. Enter the good judge.
I don’t need to go into the details of the things he has been accused of doing, but I’d say the Herman Thomas mentoring treatment was not all that likely to send our kid-on-the-verge in the right direction. He’s now been pulled into some sort of twisted sex club and god knows what else. I’d imagine that feels quite a bit helpless. What little self-esteem he had has now been shattered, and upon discovering that even the judges are crooked, it would probably seem a good time to just give up and go completely astray. Why not? After all, his new sex buddy has his back if he gets caught anyway.
I’m by no means trying to abdicate responsibility away from the individual, but I can’t help but feel some sympathy here. There’s not much to say for those who already had an impressive rap sheet under their belt when they met Thomas (although they absolutely did NOT deserve what he did), but my heart goes out to any of those who might have been first-time minor offenders when they encountered him. It doesn’t excuse their crimes, but I’d say it’s not all that surprising that they ended up going down the wrong path.
Of course I just made up that story for dramatic effect, but I have no reason to believe that it isn’t true. Who are we to say that some of these young men would have turned out to be the “thugs, creeps, and losers” that they are if not for Thomas' intervention?
proud says:
April 08, 2009
03:58 PM
Bluedotbama, I dare you!!!! The guys that were abused wheather criminals, thugs or what have you, are still people who's constitutional rights have clearly been violated!!! I hope any and all jurors can understand that this could be you or your sons. This was a judge and should not have happened. Yes they are young men, but with the threat of more extensive prison time and probation revolcation hanging over their heads I think you would have bowed as well. How Dare You?? Unless this is something you would have done like the judge. Huh!
bluedotbama says:
April 08, 2009
02:36 PM
JM, I know that you are concerned about the victims in this miss and we all should be. However, I think we will find that these victims are not minors but young adults who are criminals, thugs, creeps and losers who, whether rightly or wrongly, for which the public will not have a lot of sympathy. This is not like some 13 year old choir boy being molested by the 40 year old priest which the church allowed and covered for years. I certainly detest what happened but am making an observation of what I think the general public reaction will be to these guys as time passes and the story developes. What do you think?
jm says:
April 08, 2009
11:15 AM
I think the similarities in the allegations against Thomas and the rumors about Giardini are extraordinary. From a purely clinical standpoint, the (alleged) sex-related crimes are very similarly motivated. Even more extraordinary is the incomprehensible and ironic betrayal of public trust in both instances.
Without more information, I’m obviously very disappointed in the time it’s taken to get an indictment against Thomas. All I kept thinking was, why isn’t there a sex crimes prosecutor all over this? If this was an episode of SVU (chuckle), it seems like there should have been someone who understands how sex offenders operate passionately arguing to the DA that a quick indictment (on at least some of the charges) is in the best interests of the public, even if it takes years to get to the bottom of the whole story. If nothing else, it adds quite a bit of insult to injury if the one person who should have been most immediately concerned that Thomas was a potential threat to minors had his own similar secrets to hide. Ouch. That one’s going to leave a mark on my heart (if the story sticks).
But yeah, at this stage, there’s no reason to assume they are related beyond the painful irony. This thing is a mess, and yes, the fox seems to be guarding the hen house (and the jail house and the courtroom, etc). My favorite is the old expression “Corn can’t expect justice from a court composed of chickens.” Everybody’s seems to be looking out for their own corn in this saga.
bluedotbama says:
April 08, 2009
09:05 AM
That's the fox guarding the hen house syndrome. I am not sure there is a connection between the Thomas investigation and the Giardini fiasco but its a little more than just fuzzy. It's one hell of a screwed up mess. I am now waiting on the final chapter of this saga.
jm says:
April 07, 2009
10:04 PM
Well, that’s one way it can happen. When the person who’s supposed to be the one noticing that there might be a potential danger to teenagers is himself a potential dangers to teenagers, sometimes thing can get a little fuzzy.
proud says:
April 07, 2009
09:35 AM
Go ahead Tyson, the Black Community is behind you 100 percent!!! We expect you to do your job as it relates to Herman Thomas and now Steve Garidini. A lot of people political careers are hanging in the balance!
These cases will not just go away, we expect for them to be tried and justice to prevail for the victims.
I dare any of you say the a convicted felons has no rights. What if it were your child? Let us not pre judge any of them.
Let Justice Prevail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bluedotbama says:
April 06, 2009
03:24 PM
I understand your feelings JM. We may never know the full story on when or who started the investigation. I have always heard there is/was an active investigation all along however I was always under the impression the Feds were ahead of Tyson. Guess I was wrong on that one. As for when Tyson started the investigation only he can specifically answer that but I don't think either he or Deborah Rhodes were influenced by the media......which could be good or bad depending on your viewpoint.
Keep in mind when trying to figure this out as to timing remember that when it came to prosecuting the matter before the judicial inquiry commission that Troy King recused the AG's office and that required the local DA to do it (Tyson). The AG chickened out in other words. Tyson moved forward and to circumvent the hearing Thomas resigned. Tyson went after David Thomas also and the house of cards began to crumble pretty quickly.
Maybe Tyson deferred to the Feds and changed his mind after they proved ineffective. I don't know. The possibilities and scenarios are endless.
What do find interesting in reading the comments here is the steadfast support of Thomas and the steadfast criticism of Tyson despite some pretty compelling evidence that is contrary to those positions. As far as it appears to me Thomas is in trouble because Tyson is doing what he was elected to do.
jm says:
April 06, 2009
01:12 AM
Blue, you might have been right that there was something in the works at the time of our discussion, which is not all that surprising by that point, but that by no means establishes that the issue was being investigated in a timely and proper manner. I think some people wonder if maybe there was a quick scramble for evidence, and then maybe a conversation that went sort of like this:
“Shit, now we’ve got to hurry up and pull a grand jury together.”
“Hey, I’ve got a great idea. Why don’t we just grab some of those schmucks from the Lam Luong pool?”
Either way, it’s awesome that the indictment came through, and it’s awesome that there’s at least some barrier of protection between Herman and teenagers. I was so happy to hear of the condition. It’s not exactly a foolproof plan, but at least it’s an improvement from inviting him into their rooms at all hours of the night to check their homework, and then offering him a high-five and a cigarette on the way back out. That might sound crude, but that’s how outrageous the whole thing sounded to me.
The presence of the condition confirms that there is at least some concern regarding Herman’s behavior with kids. In my opinion, cause for concern could be drawn directly from the original allegations coupled with the increase in time spent with at-risk teenagers. Anyone who thinks there’s a risk based on those factors alone has been aware of that risk for well over two years. I’m just not understanding how it comes about that there’s been an awareness that this guy might have been a threat to minors for over two years, and no one bothers to stop him from visiting kids’ houses at night. How does this even happen?
I don’t believe that anybody wants any children to get hurt. And I do think the vast majority of those who protect us would very much care if they knew a minor was in danger from some creepy predator. It almost seems like it never really occurred to anyone that there might be a danger to kids until very, very recently. In fact, it ALMOST sounds like no one was really thinking much about Herman at all until very, very recently…..
bluedotbama says:
April 05, 2009
08:25 PM
Nobody ever commented but like I always said.......I was right all along.
billybob says:
March 30, 2009
03:20 PM
Another one bites the dust. Eventually it catches up to you. Just ask Madoff. Anxious to see how much time he gets!
maggie says:
March 29, 2009
01:39 PM
Damn,
I think the Lagniappe needs a section on animal husbantry as Homer has educated me somewhat. I noniniate him for the column and in the meantime, I am keeping my back against the wall for fear of wild spider monkeys. Shit my spinchter just tightened up.
lol maggie
PS I wonder if we could get "Mr. Friend Goat" online in the paper.
eye65north says:
March 28, 2009
07:07 PM
This is a tricky case as both parties have skeletons in their respective closet. Thomas, of course,
and Tyson, the closet racist. I hope thomas gets off (no pun intended).
Not out of of innocence but to stick it to the racist DA office. I speak from experience.
God I'm glad I left mobile when I did. What a stinking s**thole!
diogenes says:
March 28, 2009
06:23 PM
A balloon is impressive until it is pricked. Before getting excited about the great job Tyson finally accomplished, me thinks that Mr. K was on point as to the statute of limitations having expired on most, if not all, of the inflated indictments. He who hesitates often loses. The public and general welfare have lost. Three(3) years have passed since the offenses and the exceptions will have to be argued to a jury to apply . .
bluedotbama says:
March 28, 2009
12:33 PM
I was glad to see Sam Cochran and Phillip Garrett at the press conference with John Tyson. It took a lot of work for this to be completed and all should get credit for working together.
proud says:
March 28, 2009
10:20 AM
I sure do thank you John Tyson and all of your support team! This has been a long time coming. I think the black community is smart enough to understand that this can not and will not be tolerated! We will not convict Judge Thomas before his trial, but given the current set of circumstances. We will not support him, we will not rally behind him. I certainly hope the NAACP is intellingent enough as I know they are to understand the bigger picture here than to defend a black man.
All of the victims have Rights and are do to have their case heard before a jury of their peers. My gravest concern is to have the D.A. investigate the murder of the poor 15 year old who was mysteriously killed after the judge alledgely performed anal oral sex on him. Then the kid ended up kill just briefly afterward. I have GREAT CONCERN over this. Do anyone feel the way I do?
The family who have never been able to penetrate the walls of Justice on his behalf had this not happened.
homer says:
March 27, 2009
07:06 PM
Why is it that stupid people think everyone else is stupid? " used the cover of the Lam Luong trial to ask for the jurors for this special grand jury" translation, "I was doing everything I could to not let people see I was doing all my work after it was pointed out I was sitting on my ass and I didn't want the feds to beat me to it". I mean doesn't it all the sudden seem rushed? Anyway it's done, Tyson isn't any worse than the next D.A. (dumb ass?) would be, at least he finally did his job.